FE COMMENTARY!

[VengeancE]

WASSUP EVERYONE!:

As promised, here is {bac}Toaster's (Buzz) post regarding FE:

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""HI all,

I writing here to get some opinions about what you guys are expecting from
FE.

As a small introduction, let me say that this idea came out from comments
made by one of the betterknowned member and chief of clan of our community
about Forgoten Enemies. To put you guys in the context let me explain that
we had one of these regular games where one dogfight is winn then 2 or 3 of
these players sit in your base preventing you from building anything whyle
they get chain and finish the game.

After this (15 minutes to organize and 10 minute to end it) game, the
subject of FE was brough up by this eminent Wicked member saying that ``FE
would suck, as one Race was way too strong for the others``.

Now, I didn't (and I hope you guys wont) get fooled by this comment. For the
last 3 months we (the testers) having been working on balancing units and
weapons, to be sure that each race would have its own way of playing with
equal chances to winn games. On this point let me just say that we could be
easly insulted by this way to say things as it not only attack our work but
also our intelligence and integrity, and THAT :.

The bottom line of this is that this guy porbably saw the Mod, (as honesty
is less and less common inthis world), and noticed that there was an option
made available to make that rushing game would be a lot more difficult to
accomplish, and also that the defenses would be touhger to deal with. In
other words, you will have to use a lot more strategy and skill to winn
games and it will also make that less experimented players will have more
chances to appriciate the subtility of this STRATEGY game befrore beiing
crushed.

That`s probably what the present denigrator is afraid of.

The question is what do you think of this new kind of gameplay that will
come with FE.

Buzz (GrandPa)""


Tanks

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Let use know what you think. Until then...

PEACE OUT!,
{bac_V/E}VengeancE

[Buzz]

I wanted to clarify some things about FE since I pass by and as I was involved a lot, not as a dev but more as one of the most active tester before it came out.

First let me tell you that I'm not active anymore as a CP tester, and that my implications with the 1.3 patch was pretty short.

Ken and Nathan choose to get on the community project board whyle FE was in production cause it seemed to be the place where most of the good "fans devs" and mapmakers where "sitting". But the 1.3 patch was always independant from FE and was only worked only by them, even if there was for a time a close collaboration from the CP team. I do hope that this is clear as there seems to be some misunderstanding about it.

When it came out FE was a very good mod, (not a perfect one but considering that most devs where at there first experience, the kind of quality that came out from there work was, from my point of view, astonishing (is that a spelled right...).)

There was things to do to make it perfect: rec-def off as a standart option, non self regeneration for the rec, and small things for a real perfect balance, but as it wasnt played much and as Pastel, responsable for most of the Hadeans and MP issue disapeared, (probably pissed by the community response), the patch for it as not been out yet and we dont realy know when it will.

Thats one of the reason why I quit my activitys in CP.

I would appriciate any comments that is relative to FE and consider also that its not only important but a right, a responsability as a member of the BZ community to write on the CP board to say what you expect from the 1.3 patch.

From what Ken Miller told me, it was in is intentions to make FE a incentive to use the 1.3 patch but it as never been clear that those 2 project would be mixed, and as most dont play FE, there are big chances that only 1.3 will be available as a packadge deal patch for the futur of BZ2 so in think that its quite important that you guys comment about it.

For FE itslef I fell that what's happening is too bad, Players didnt understand that you could play it as 1.2 , and that rec-def was created for the specific use of newbies (to get use to the game without beiing rushed before playing it the usual way). Also I do agree that there was still some light balancing to do, and that having new challeges for pilots, as defenses are better, made quite a change and not always easy to adapt, but I guess that this is the choice of the community, and realy hope that its not the only influence of 2 or 3 guys, opposed to it that demolished 1.5 year of free work.

My comments for 1.3 was to wait and see as what i've seen was still beta, but its realy important that opinions about what you would like it to be, be writen. It is a clear fact that the physics of ships will be changed, and i think that the Pandi guys will give quality to the changes that 1.3 will bring, Still, what they read right now is from people who barely dont play the game online or that are too busy devlopping to get skills as pilots, so there most be others point of view given, and this must be done in a respectuas way as Ken and Nathan still can bring a lot and settle a lot of other problems as Alt-tabbing, MFW, AVs, ect...

Hope that I'm clear here (mabe not but anyway...)

Cya guys

Buzz

[Jarhead]

Hey all,

Buzz, I was pleased to learn you are {bac}, as I had played a couple games against u as a free agent (contracts pending of course);)

You straight whooped my *** ;) I'm glad we r in the same clan. I'd love to play on the same team, so if u have the time and inclination maybe u can play with some of us newer guys and let us learn some of your tactics ;)

I personally enjoy FE on a fairly regular basis, however as u say, it can be hard to get a strat going. I wish more people played FE strats. Hell, turn rec def off if it offends people so much ;)

As far as that thread over at {HEL}, all most posters were overreacting towards you personally, but due to miscommunication.

On the other hand, Vegeta, who is obviously a mere child, amused me with his misguided threats and supposed defense of his founder(BULL) (who i doubt needs mighty mouse to defend him). I like and respect the vast majority of {HEL} members. Vegeta strikes me more as a better addition to {VnB} than {HEL}. smilies/biggrin.gif

CYA

[NSDF_Trooper-GM-F]

Hmm i think FE is very great expansion pack for BZ 2. And i didn't expect FE so great from people that just play or played BZ 2 they been working hard to make FE. Ya it's not finished yet, but it will be. And i think most new features are great, i think rec def is very good feature. Because some people like VNB don't play FE because people like to turn rec def on. And VNB can't rush than hehe. Headen and EDF are strong, But if to know how to play Scion than scion are strong too. Scion Got titans very powerful units, maulers are great if you can use them, Gun spires shoot slow but they got longer range, Scion builders can walk on hills, and headen can't. But i would like to see more Strat maps and DM maps and pilot wars maps in FE. BTW welcome to boards buzz. =).

[Buzz]

Tks for the welcome Trooper,

About FE, again, I'm saying that rec-def as it is, is very effective for what they have meant to be, newbies life saver, and even some will appricite teh kind of gameplay that it brings but i would advise to play it (FE) more without them if we want to get more vets playing it.