Anyone know about good CPU's???

[IronCurtain]

i was just lookin for a new CPU and i have no clue what is good. So i was just wonderin if you guys know about any CPU's that are good for runnin computer games. My CPU now sucks and i cant do anythin with the sound card, grafics card, and speed. Its all old! Ive heard of these alienware CPU's, they any good? well thanks a ton if you can help me out! http://www.bac-clan.com/forum/images/smilies/ubb_import/smile.gif http://www.bac-clan.com/forum/images/smilies/ubb_import/biggrin.gif http://www.bac-clan.com/forum/images/smilies/ubb_import/jester.gif http://www.bac-clan.com/forum/images/smilies/ubb_import/long_smile.gif http://www.bac-clan.com/forum/images/smilies/ubb_import/burst.gif http://www.bac-clan.com/forum/images/smilies/ubb_import/laugh.gif

[Err0neus]

alienware cpu's?
never heard of them
basically you have 2 choices athlon or pentium
you have to make sure 1 that your botherboard supports the new cpu's
personally i am an athlon fan, usually cheaper and are as nice as intel. This is of course my opinion and I'm sure somebody will tell you intel is better.

Err0neus

[VengeancE]

Moving to Fried Capacitor. http://www.bac-clan.com/forum/images/smilies/ubb_import/smile.gif

[DevilsPaw]

well, AMD is a helluva lot cheaper than Intel and does statistically perform faster than some pentiums (e.g Athlon 2100+ at 1.73 ghz vs Pentium 1.8 ghz) but they get real hot, much hotter than Pentium chips. If you go Athlon, make sure that you keep your box cool. Pentiums tend to be more stable than Athlons as well.
I have an AMD and I haven't run into any problems but I think my next computer will be Pentium powered.

[bac HayabaSu]

i have always had amd processors, just buy a couple extra fans and all will be fine.
but i think he actually means towers... in which case alienware makes a good one, but you will pay alot extra for their name... you can simply buy a motherboard and processor, then add gfx and sound, i recently did these same upgrades and did so for about 500 bucks... and that was for an athlon xp1700, geforce4 ti4200, and soundblaster audigy.... so the choice is yours!!

[Caramilk]

i always preferred intel series. although they are more expensive than amd, i go more for quality than price. the choice is ur though: price or quality

[Milman]

Another good person to talk to would be No Tact. He comes around here every now and then. Anyways, he makes computers and such so I'd assume he'd be a premo source for info :).

Mil
http://www.bac-clan.com/forum/images/smilies/ubb_import/firedevil.gif

[Havok]

Go with Intel mate.
Trust me when I say....its worth the couple extra dollars.
Intel is more reliable....and least likely to burn up on ya.
Besides.....you wont need an air conditioning unit in your box to keep an Intel cool.

Lates.
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[Tripwire]

AMD suck, !!!!

Get an intel cpu dude,

[Nemesis]

Jesus guys, i've never met another group of people that seem so eager to play "mines better than yours", grow up will ya? the guy asked advice, not to hear "amd suck" and "intel suck"

Iron, both chips are great, i use an athlon myself, admittedly i've got 6 fans in my pc and it sounds like a small plane taking off when it gets started, however i put up with this because I prefer AMD, Intel have great chips to, thats why they are the market leader, look on the bright side, at least IBM aren't still flogging their Cyrix chips, they were terrible lol

Nem

[IronCurtain]

LOL! a "airplane" i anlo have 2 fans! man i cant belive you have 6!!! wow! well yeah thanks for the advice, but one question... is the Intel a tower?

[DevilsPaw]

tower is only referring to the box, there's all different sizes. towers are the most popular. those are the ones you see most often. What everyone is talking about is the particular chip, the brain of the computer. the little thing that costs 200 bucks hehe

[No Tact]

Man oh Man. Please do not attempt to do it your self before you read up on what you need to do. Subscribe to Maximum PC - www.maximumpc.com (http://www.maximumpc.com) . Search the internet for Build A Computer sites/articles. Join some tweaker geek forums like www.hardocp.com (http://www.hardocp.com) or www.mikhailtech.com (http://www.mikhailtech.com) forums and ask the geeks what you need to do. You will get more that you can use from them.

I will be building a rather nice gaming system for sale here soon. http://www.bac-clan.com/forum/images/smilies/ubb_import/thumbs.gif I will post when it is done.

Buy high end and dont skimp on the parts in the first place. Intel prices are coming down but so are AMD's. I would think either CPU format would be fine. Remember this guy is not an overclocker so extreme is not needed.

What system do you have now? Brand, speed, etc?

Would your current case be compativle with an ATX motherboard?

How much money do you have to spend for an upgrade?

What kind of performance do you need?

What components DVD, CDROM, CDRW, Storage Capacity, Graphics Ability, etc?

Of course if you have all kinds of cash then an even higher end system can be built. If you don't want to Do It Yourself (DIY) then go to www.voodoo.com, (http://www.voodoo.com,) www.abspc.com, (http://www.abspc.com,) www.theory.com (http://www.theory.com) or http://www.falcon-nw.com and have them do it all for you for a higher price. Alienware? Maybe?

You can build a nice screaming GAMING system for $ 876.99 + shipping and your own labor. All parts through www.newegg.com (http://www.newegg.com) one of the best resellers on the net and reliable. Fast shipping. Check www.resellerratings.com (http://www.resellerratings.com) for companies credibility before buying online.

Computer would consist of: (No Keyboard, Mouse, Speakers, Monitor, Etc. Just the Tower)

AMD 2200+ CPU - http://www.newegg.com/app/Showimage.asp?image=19-103-334-01.JPG

Chaintech 7VJL Motherboard (Includes Round Cables) - http://www.newegg.com/app/Showimage.asp ?image=13-152-007-01.JPG/13-152-007-02.JPG/13-152-007-03.JPG/13-152-007-04.JPG/13-152-007-05.JPG (http://www.newegg.com/app/Showimage.asp?image=13-152-007-01.JPG/13-152-007-02.JPG/13-152-007-03.JPG/13-152-007-04.JPG/13-152-007-05.JPG)

Chaintech GeForce4 Ti4200 64MB GPU - http://www.newegg.com/app/Showimage.asp?image=14-145-024-01.JPG/14-145-024- 02.JPG/14-145-024-03.JPG (http://www.newegg.com/app/Showimage.asp?image=14-145-024-01.JPG/14-145-024-02.JPG/14-145-024-03.JPG)

512MB Corsair PC2100 2.5 CAS - http://www.newegg.com/app/Showimage.asp?image=20-145-005-05.jpg/20-145-005-06.JPG

Chieftech Case (Black) w/420 Watt PSU and 3 80 MM fans - http://www.newegg.com/app/Showimage.asp?image=11-125-141-01.JPG/11-125-141-02.JPG/11-125-141-03.jpg/11-125-141-04.JPG/11-125-141-05.JPG/11-125-141-06.JPG/11-125-141-07.JPG/11-[/UR L] 125-141-08.JPG/11-125-141-09.JPG

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Lite On 16X DVD Black - [url="http://www.newegg.com/app/Showimage.asp?image=27-131-105-01.JPG/27-131-105-02.JPG/27-131-105-03.jpg"]http://www.newegg.com/app/Showimage.asp?image=27-131-105-01.JPG/27-131-105- 02.JPG/27-131-105-03.jpg (http://www.newegg.com/app/Showimage.asp?image=11-125-141-01.JPG/11-125-141-02.JPG/11-125-141-03.jpg/11-125-141-04.JPG/11-125-141-05.JPG/11-125-141-06.JPG/11-125-141-07.JPG/11- )

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Win XP Pro (Upgrade Version for Students) - http://www.newegg.com/app/Showimage.asp?image=37-116-112-02.JPG

Arctic Silver 3 Thermal Compound - http://www.newegg.com/app/Showimage.asp?image=35-100-003-03.jpg

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Actual Order from newweg.com website.
Qty Product Item # Unit Price Qty x Price

CHIEFTEC Server Chasis http://www.newegg.com/app/Showimage.asp?image=11-125-141-01.JPG/11-125-141-02.JPG/11-125-141-03.jpg/11-125-141-04.JPG/11-125-141-05.JPG/11-125-141-06.JPG/11-125-141-07.JPG/11 -125-1 (http://www.newegg.com/app/Showimage.asp?image=11-125-141-01.JPG/11-125-141-02.JPG/11-125-141-03.jpg/11-125-141-04.JPG/11-125-141-05.JPG/11-125-141-06.JPG/11-125-141-07.JPG/11- 125-1) 41-08.JPG/11-125-141-09.JPG (Workstation Tower) Model DX-01BD-420W Charcoal Black Color ***NOW w/ Front USB port*** AMD Approved Power Supply Front Accessible: 4 x 5.25", 2 x 3.5", Internal: 4 x 3.5". Power Supply: Turbo Link (P4) 420 watts ATX 12V- w/ 2 Case Fans more info-> N82E16811125141 $68.00 $68.00


CHAINTECH 7VJL AMD Motherboard KT333 ATX RETAIL http://www.newegg.com/app/Showimage.asp ?image=13-152-007-01.JPG/13-152-007-02.JPG/13-152-007-03.JPG/13-152-007-04.JPG/13-152-007-05.JPG (http://www.newegg.com/app/Showimage.asp?image=13-152-007-01.JPG/13-152-007-02.JPG/13-152-007-03.JPG/13-152-007-04.JPG/13-152-007-05.JPG)
Specifications:
Socket: Socket A/462 AMD Duron/Athlon/XP+
Chipset: KT-333/VIA VT8235
Frontside Bus: 200/266
Memory: 3x DDR333 184pin up to 3GB
EIDE: Ultra-ATA 133/100/66/33
IO:1 Parallel, 1 Serial, 1 KB 1 PS2 Mouse, 6 USB 2.0
Ports:AGP 4X, 6 PCI
Onboard LAN VIA VT6103 10/100
Onboard Sound CMedia 8738 more info-> N82E16813152007 $112.00 $112.00


Chaintech Geforce4 4200 "GT20" 64MB Retail http://www.newegg.com/app/Showimage.asp?image=14-145-024-01.JPG/14-145-024- 02.JPG/14-145-024-03.JPG (http://www.newegg.com/app/Showimage.asp?image=14-145-024-01.JPG/14-145-024-02.JPG/14-145-024-03.JPG)
Specifications:
Chipset - NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4200
Memory -64MB DDR
128-bit Memory interface
256-bit Graphics Architecture
250 MHz Core Clock
444 MHz Memory Clock
350MHz internal RAMDAC
Ports:VGA 15 Pin No TV out
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AMD Athlon XP 2200+/266 FSB Processor CPU - Retail Box http://www.newegg.com/app/Showimage.asp?image=19-103-334-01.JPG
Specifications:
CPU: 1.8 GHz
Type: XP 2200+ Thoroughbred
Cache: 256K
BUS: 266MHz
Socket A (PGA) Retail (Box with Heatsink and fan) more info-> N82E16819103334 $159.00 $159.00


Crucial Micron 512MB 64x64 PC2100 DDR RAM http://www.newegg.com/app/Showimage.asp?image=20-145-005-05.jpg/20-145-005-06.JPG , 184-Pin, CL=2.5-Unbuffered 2.5V, 6-Layers
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Specifications:
Size: 20 Gigabytes
Interface: IDE ULTRA ATA100
Seek time: 8.9ms
RPM:7200
Cache 2MB
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Specifications:
Speed : Recording 48Xmax CAV Re-writing 24X High-Speed CLV Reading 48Xmax CAV
Interface : ATAPI-E/IDE, support up to Ultra-DMA Mode2 33.3MB/sec
Access Time : 80ms (typical)
Buffer Memory Size: 2MB
Operating System : Windows 95/98/NT/XP/2000/ME
MTBF : 70'000 Power On Hours with 25% Duty
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Specifications:
Speed :DVD-ROM 16X (6.4X~16X) - CD-ROM 48X (20X~48X)
Interface : ATAPI-E/IDE
Sustained Transfer Rate : Support up to Ultra-DMA/33 33.3MB/sec
Burst Transfer Rate : Support up to Ultra-DMA/33 33.3MB/sec
Access Time : 120ms (typical)
MTBF : 70'000 Power On Hours with 20% Duty
Supported OS: DOS 6.xx, Windows 95/98/NT/2000/XP, OS2 Warp
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Subtotal » $876.99

That's about enough from me http://www.bac-clan.com/forum/images/smilies/ubb_import/hardrock.gif

PS - I have 12 fans...mwa, ha, ha, ha, ha

[ 14. November 2002, 02:18 PM: Edit: No Tact ]

[Milman]

See? I told ya! And btw, how the heck are ya Tact? I never see you on icq anymore :(.

Mil
http://www.bac-clan.com/forum/images/smilies/ubb_import/firedevil.gif

[No Tact]

Been good man. Playing BF1942 and dive bombing mofo's in planes and having a blast.

ICQ is not an auto start program anymore as I just shut it off when I go play BF1942.

How U been?

[DevilsPaw]

hey Tact! good to see you again dude! http://www.bac-clan.com/forum/images/smilies/ubb_import/wave.gif

[No Tact]

You to my friend. That system still running good?

BTW guiys I hang out daily in Mikhailtech Forums. http://forums.mikhailtech.com/

Geek forums. Come on by some time register and add to the discussions.

[DevilsPaw]

yup, system is still workin good. I recently got my hands on some 486 and Pentium 1 parts... i think its time for a little dose of the old school hehe

i think when i finally upgrade this computer is when Doom 3 comes out. I figure thats a good time do it.

i'll check out those forums and i'm sure i'll ya there

[Nemesis]

who are you people?

Nem

[IronCurtain]

yo just to say... thanks for all info yall!!! ill be lookin at comps for a while before i get one and your info helped me a lot! THX :D

[No Tact]

<blockquote><span style="font size:10">quote:<hr />Originally posted by Nemesis:
who are you people?

Nem[/QUOTE]Haha you old ninniy. What' up Nemmy